From larry.kellogg at gmail.com Sat Dec 1 14:37:23 2007 From: larry.kellogg at gmail.com (Larry Kellogg) Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2007 11:37:23 -0800 Subject: [lunar-update] ALTAIR VI D.S.F. Portree's Blog - Lunar railroad(1998) - RPIF adventures Message-ID: <4751B7F3.8020808@gmail.com> ALTAIR VI D.S.F. Portree's Blog - Lunar railroad(1998) http://altairvi.blogspot.com/2007/11/lunar-railroad-1998.html -------------------------------------------------------------- Generally speaking, the most efficient form of cargo transport in terms of energy expended is a pipeline and the least efficient is a truck on a road. Somewhere in between are barges on canals and railroad cars on tracks. In April 1998, David Schrunk, Madhu Thangavelu, Bonnie Cooper, and Burton Sharpe proposed using robots teleoperated from a near-polar moon base (perhaps at Newton crater) to build a railroad around the moon's south pole (bottom image above) at about 85? of latitude. The circular railroad, which would begin and end at the base, would be used to build and service solar arrays paralleling its entire 950-kilometer length. Snip -------------------------------------------------------------- It is December 1, 2007 and I have David S. F. Portree's blog listed on my blog site's 'Links I Like' as one that you should consider for interesting writing about things Moon, Mars, and Beyond. http://altairvi.blogspot.com/2007/12/rpif-report.html On his November 30, 2007 post, he writes about a lunar railroad that David Schrunk, etal., presented at the Space 1998 Conference back in 1998. - LRK - -------------------------------------------------------------- /"Physical Transportation on the Moon: The Lunar Railroad," David Schrunk, Madhu Thangavelu, Bonnie Cooper, and Burton Sharpe, Space 98, Proceedings of the Sixth International Conference and Exposition on Engineering, Construction, and Operations in Space, Rodney G. Galloway and Stanley Lokaj, editors, pp. 347-353; paper presented at the Space 98 Conference in Albuquerque, New Mexico, April 26-30, 1998./ -------------------------------------------------------------- You know David Schrunk, etal. from their book, "The Moon: Resources, Future Development and Colonization". They have a revised version out now. http://www.amazon.ca/Moon-Resources-Future-Development-Settlement/dp/0387360557/ You see you are not alone in your interest about humans exploring space. - LRK - If you are looking for a lot more information and things to read, then also take a look at all the material that David Brndt-Erichsen has added to the National Space Society web site for space settlement. Just recently he added G. Harry Stine's book Space Power to the SSP Library. http://www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/spacepower/ More links below. You will see, much to enjoy. - LRK - Thanks for looking up with me. Larry Kellogg Web Site: http://lkellogg.vttoth.com/LarryRussellKellogg/ BlogSpot: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/ RSS link: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/atom.xml Newsletter: https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update ============================================================== http://altairvi.blogspot.com/ Altair VI David S. F. Portree's blog Saturday, December 1, 2007 RPIF adventures http://altairvi.blogspot.com/2007/12/rpif-report.html What, December already? Two months have passed since I became Manager of the Regional Planetary Information Facility (RPIF) at the U.S. Geological Survey's campus in Flagstaff, Arizona. I like the job because it places me close to planetary scientists doing exciting work and because it makes me custodian of an astonishing collection of planetary maps and unique space history resources. I enjoy helping researchers. A big part of my job is to make our collection more accessible. I'm overseeing the creation of a reference core for our collection, along with weeding superfluous materials, putting materials online, and proactively seeking new materials. The goal is a leaner, meaner RPIF that can serve a meaningful outreach function for the USGS Astrogeology Branch. That said, I don't have the option of writing when I want to write. I've grown used to that freedom during my past dozen years of freelancing. There's been some mention of making use of my writing skills, and I plan to be proactive about it. But distributing maps, getting our collection organized, and getting all of our materials into storage conditions conducive to their preservation are consuming all of my time right now, and probably will continue to do so for some time to come. Snip ============================================================== http://www.amazon.ca/Moon-Resources-Future-Development-Settlement/dp/0387360557/ The Moon: Resources, Future Development and Settlement (Paperback) by David Schrunk (Author), Burton Sharpe (Author), Bonnie L. Cooper (Author), Madhu Thangavelu (Author) "People have speculated about the origin of the Moon for centuries ..." Snip Review "...a comprehensive overview of the peculiar challenges and opportunites presented by the industrial colonisation of the moon...an inspiring read..." ?Chemistry & Industry "As a reference book for forward-looking engineers and architects, 'The Moon' can be recommended... it presents a convincing and detailed account of the reasons for returning to the Moon and the ways in which this may be achieved." ?Peter Bond, The Journal of the British Astronomical Association "Anyone who has an interest in the future development and colonisation of the Moon will find this book an informative and stimulating read." ?C. Welch, Space Flight --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title. Book Description The Moon: Resources, Future Development and Settlement describes feasible human settlement of the Moon in the coming century. Small scale, tele-operated and autonomous robotic in-situ resource utilization (ISRU) projects are first, followed by electric power, communication, and transportation networks manufactured from lunar resources. These infrastructure networks are field tested an commissioned in the polar regions of the Moon, and permanent human settlements are then established. Through several phases of development, the utility networks grow, and the number of permanently inhabited bases increases to inculde all areas of interest on the Moon. The book stresses that the envisioned "Planet Moon Project" will link the technological and cultural expertise of humanity to the virtually limitless resources of space. From that beginning, the people of the Earth reap substantial benefits from space, and the human species will evolve into a spacefaring civilization. Snip ============================================================== Go to the National Space Society web site for much information. - LRK - http://www.nss.org/settlement/ Space Settlement Nexus http://www.nss.org/settlement/library.html The NSS Space Settlement Library contains over 18,000 pages on site, http://www.nss.org/settlement/space/index.html Orbital Settlements http://www.nss.org/settlement/moon/index.html Lunar Bases and Settlement http://www.nss.org/settlement/moon/library/index.htm Lunar Bases & Settlement Library http://www.nss.org/settlement/mars/index.html Settling Mars http://www.nss.org/settlement/asteroids/index.html Asteroids http://www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/index.htm http://www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/library/index.htm http://www.nss.org/settlement/L5news/index.html The L5 News was published from September 1975 until April 1987. http://www.nss.org/settlement/roadmap/index.html The NSS Roadmap to Space Settlement Snip ============================================================== WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK ============================================================== This is the lunar-update at news.altair.com https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update This list is a moderated list. The moderator is Larry Kellogg (larry.kellogg AT gmail.com) Please send suggestions for postings directly to Larry. ============================================================== From larry.kellogg at gmail.com Tue Dec 4 19:41:44 2007 From: larry.kellogg at gmail.com (Larry Kellogg) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:41:44 -0800 Subject: [lunar-update] NASA ANNOUNCES WEB COVERAGE OF NEXT SPACE SHUTTLE MISSION Message-ID: <4755F3C8.6060806@gmail.com> NASA ANNOUNCES WEB COVERAGE OF NEXT SPACE SHUTTLE MISSION CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - A prelaunch webcast, live blogs, podcasts, pictures and videos will highlight NASA's Web coverage of space shuttle Atlantis' STS-122 mission to the International Space Station. For continuous online updates visit: http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The shuttle is scheduled to lift off at 4:31 p.m. EST on Thursday to begin mission STS-122. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/MM_NTV_Breaking-old.html December 3, Monday 6:30 a.m. - STS-122 B-Roll Video Feed - JSC (Public and Media Channels) 7 - 9 a.m. - Live Interviews with STS-122 Lead Space Station Flight Director Sally Davis - JSC (Public and Media Channels) 9:35 a.m. - ISS Expedition 16 Interview with WJMK Radio Chicago and WGN Radio Chicago - JSC (Public and Media Channel) December 4, Tuesday 11:25 a.m. - ISS Expedition 16 Interview with Chicago Sun Times (within ISS Commentary Hour) - JSC (Public and Media Channel) December 26, Wednesday 3 a.m. - ISS Progress 27 Docking to ISS Coverage (docking scheduled at 3:26 a.m.) - JSC (Public and Media Channels) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also, take note: NASA SCHEDULES AMERICAN GEOPHYSICAL UNION MEETING MEDIA EVENTS Monday, Dec. 10, through Friday, Dec. 14 http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/agu2007.html And for overhead - The best meteor shower of 2007 peaks on Friday, December 14th. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/03dec_asteroidshower.htm?list965414 snip "It's the Geminid meteor shower," says NASA astronomer Bill Cooke of the Marshall Space Flight Center. "Start watching on Thursday evening, Dec. 13th, around 10 pm local time," he advises. "At first you might not see very many meteors?but be patient. The show really heats up after midnight and by dawn on Friday, Dec. 14th, there could be dozens of bright meteors per hour streaking across the sky." snip ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On the Moon you won't see those streaks of light in the sky but they might punch a hole in your pup tent. :-) - LRK - Thanks for looking up with me. Larry Kellogg Web Site: http://lkellogg.vttoth.com/LarryRussellKellogg/ BlogSpot: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/ RSS link: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/atom.xml Newsletter: https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update ============================================================== http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html Dec. 3, 2007 Katherine Trinidad Headquarters, Washington 202-358-3749 katherine.trinidad at nasa.gov Jeanne Ryba Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 321-867-2468 jeanne.m.ryba at nasa.gov MEDIA ADVISORY: M07-173 NASA ANNOUNCES WEB COVERAGE OF NEXT SPACE SHUTTLE MISSION CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - A prelaunch webcast, live blogs, podcasts, pictures and videos will highlight NASA's Web coverage of space shuttle Atlantis' STS-122 mission to the International Space Station. For continuous online updates visit: http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle A live webcast featuring NASA astronaut Robert Satcher will start the in-depth coverage of the mission at 11:30 a.m. EST on Dec. 5. A blog will update the countdown beginning about six hours before Atlantis is scheduled to lift off on Dec. 6 at 4:31 p.m. EST. Originating from NASA's Kennedy Space Center, the blog is the definitive Internet source for information leading up to launch. During the 11-day mission, Atlantis' crew of seven astronauts will deliver the European Space Agency's new Columbus laboratory, setting the stage for expanded science capabilities on the orbiting outpost. Visitors to NASA's shuttle Web site can read about the crew's progress and watch the spacewalks live from the space station. As Atlantis' flight wraps up, NASA will offer a blog detailing the spacecraft's return to Earth. -end- To subscribe to the list, send a message to: hqnews-subscribe at mediaservices.nasa.gov Snip ============================================================== http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/agu2007.html Dec. 4, 2007 Tabatha Thompson Headquarters, Washington 202-358-3895 tabatha.thompson-1 at nasa.gov Steve Cole/Kathryn Hansen AGU Press Room, San Francisco 415-348-4440 stephen.e.cole at nasa.gov MEDIA ADVISORY: M07-174 NASA SCHEDULES AMERICAN GEOPHYSICAL UNION MEETING MEDIA EVENTS SAN FRANCISCO - NASA researchers will present new findings to the media on a wide range of Earth and space science topics during the 2007 Fall Meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU). The AGU meeting runs Monday, Dec. 10, through Friday, Dec. 14, at the Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco. All press briefings will take place in the AGU Press Room, Room 2010 of Moscone West at 747 Howard Street, at the intersection with 4th Street. In addition to several press briefings highlighting results from NASA scientists, researchers also will present noteworthy findings during a variety of scientific sessions that are open to registered media. For a full listing of NASA media events and detailed information on how media may participate, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/agu2007.html -end- To subscribe to the list, send a message to: hqnews-subscribe at mediaservices.nasa.gov Snip ============================================================== http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/03dec_asteroidshower.htm?list965414 NASA Science News for December 3, 2007 Mark your calendar: The best meteor shower of 2007 peaks on Friday, December 14th. FULL STORY at http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/03dec_asteroidshower.htm?list965414 Check out our RSS feed at http://science.nasa.gov/rss.xml! Snip ============================================================== http://www.thespacereview.com/index.html Welcome to this week's issue of The Space Review: Aerospaceplanes and space solar power --- A key obstacle to space-based solar power is the low-cost access to space needed to make any such project economically feasible. Mike Snead argues that the basic technology needed for such "aerospaceplanes" exists today. http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1016/1 The spooks and the Sputniks --- For all the criticism of their missteps, the CIA did a good job of analyzing the Soviet space program during the Cold War. Dwayne Day examines one historical document that provides an overview of how the agency viewed the Soviet space efforts a decade after the launch of Sputnik. http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1015/1 China and India want to play --- Some recent reports have suggested that China and India are looking for ways to cooperate with the US and other nations in human spaceflight, including the ISS. Eric Hedman explores the ways such cooperation, despite various political pitfalls, could be beneficial for all involved. http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1014/1 Robert Goddard and the "colonial cringe" --- When Robert Goddard proposed some of his rocketry concepts, he was derided by many of his fellow Americans. Taylor Dinerman writes how this reaction was typical of an era when many Americans deemed their own art and science inferior to Europe. http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1013/1 How to beat the ban of humans on Mars --- Congress is considering an appropriations bill for NASA that, in one form, includes a prohibition on work related to the human exploration of Mars. Michael Huang suggests some ways around that measure should it become law. http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1012/1 Review: Space Is the Place --- The concept of "space art" to many is limited to illustrations of distant planets and galaxies. Jeff Foust reviews an exhibition of alternative space art that goes in very different -- if not bizarre -- directions. http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1011/1 Snip ============================================================== WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK ============================================================== This is the lunar-update at news.altair.com https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update This list is a moderated list. The moderator is Larry Kellogg (larry.kellogg AT gmail.com) Please send suggestions for postings directly to Larry. ============================================================== From larry.kellogg at gmail.com Wed Dec 5 23:05:20 2007 From: larry.kellogg at gmail.com (Larry Kellogg) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:05:20 -0800 Subject: [lunar-update] This week on TED.com: Why design? Message-ID: <47577500.4040607@gmail.com> This week on TED.com: Why design? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/197 About this Talk Legendary designer Philippe Starck -- with no pretty slides behind him -- spends 18 minutes reaching for the very roots of the question "Why design?" Along the way he drops brilliant insights into the human condition; listen carefully for one perfectly crystallized mantra for all of us, genius or not. Yet all this deep thought, he cheerfully admits, is to aid in the design of a better toothbrush. About Philippe Starck Philippe Starck designs deluxe objects and posh condos and hotels around the world. Always witty and... Read full bio ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hmmm, I wonder if you signed up to get word about the latest TED Talk? Maybe you did and this is redundant, maybe you didn't and you are wondering why I would include it on a lunar-update list. Hmmm, maybe because we are going to have to live here on Mother Earth while we work at living on the Moon and having new ways to think about problems can be helpful all the way around. So how would you walk on the lunar regolith dunes with so fine a grain? So how does a cockroach climb the walls and how would you run on a sand dune? Do you want to make a lunar base in a fractal design? In any case, I found the talks interesting and copied some links to the latest ones below. Enjoy. - LRK - http://www.ted.com/ http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks Thanks for looking up with me. Larry Kellogg Web Site: http://lkellogg.vttoth.com/LarryRussellKellogg/ BlogSpot: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/ RSS link: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/atom.xml Newsletter: https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update ============================================================== http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks *Philippe Starck:* Why design? Legendary designer Philippe Starck -- with no pretty slides behind him -- spends 17 minutes reaching for the very roots of the question "Why design?" Along the way he drops brilliant insights into the human condition -- yet all this deep thought, he cheerfully admits, is to aid in the design of a better toothbrush. NEW: Read the transcript on the TED Blog >> *Ron Eglash:* African fractals, in buildings and braids "I am a mathematician, and I would like to stand on your roof." This is how Ron Eglash greeted one African family while researching fractal forms across the continent. He talks about his work exploring the deep fractal math underpinning African architecture, art and even cornrow hair braiding -- and shows how one African tradition forms the basis for all modern computing. Watch this talk >> *Robert Full:* Secrets of movement, from geckos and roaches UC Berkeley biologist Robert Full shares his fascination with feet -- such as spiny cockroach legs that allow them to scuttle at full speed across loose mesh, and amazing gecko feet that have billions of nano-bristles, handy for running straight up walls. Also watch for wonderful slow-mo video of cockroach, crab and gecko gaits. Watch this talk >> *Larry Brilliant:* The case for informed optimism Google.org director Larry Brilliant uses a clip from an old Frank Capra movie to show that we've known about global warming for 50 years -- yet we've done almost nothing to solve it. He explores this and other mega-trends that could easily inspire mega-pessimism. But, he says, there is a more powerful case for optimism, and he tells us why. Recorded at the Skoll World Forum on Social Entrepreneurship, Oxford, UK. Watch this talk >> *2008 TED Prize winners announcement!* Watch the announcement video here >> On November 21 we announced the three TED Prize winners for 2008. Each TED Prize winner receives $100,000 to further his or her work -- plus one WISH. A wish to change the world, with the help of the TED community to grant that wish. Learn more about the TED Prize >> Snip ============================================================== http://blog.ted.com/ Why design? Philippe Starck on TED.com Legendary designer *Philippe Starck * -- with no pretty slides behind him -- spends 17 minutes reaching for the very roots of the question "Why design?" Along the way he drops brilliant insights into the human condition; listen carefully for one perfectly crystallized motto for all of us, genius or not. Yet all this deep thought, he cheerfully admits, is to aid in the design of a better toothbrush. /(Recorded March 2007 in Monterey, California. Duration: 17:07.)/ Snip ============================================================== WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK ============================================================== This is the lunar-update at news.altair.com https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update This list is a moderated list. The moderator is Larry Kellogg (larry.kellogg AT gmail.com) Please send suggestions for postings directly to Larry. ============================================================== From larry.kellogg at gmail.com Sun Dec 9 14:21:45 2007 From: larry.kellogg at gmail.com (Larry Kellogg) Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 11:21:45 -0800 Subject: [lunar-update] Space shuttle Atlantis' STS-122 mission to ISS new target date January 02, 2008 Message-ID: <475C4049.2010702@gmail.com> Space shuttle Atlantis' STS-122 mission to ISS new target date January 02, 2008 http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html Well the shuttle was scheduled to lift off at 4:31 p.m. EST on Thursday to begin mission STS-122. That didn't happen because of a failure of two Engine Cutoff (ECO) low level sensors for the liquid Hydrogen in the external tank during filling. Rescheduled for today, December 9, 2007, which is now a no go as well as one of the ECO sensors gave a false reading. Launch now put off until no earlier than January 2, 2008. The liftoff date depends on the resolution of a problem in a fuel sensor system. See NASA press release below. - LRK - More Shuttle info: http://www.nasa.gov/topics/shuttle_station/index.html Closer to home, what do you do when your engine warning sensor light comes on? Something not up to specs, maybe a problem, can you get home before you start making smog or it stalls? What can you do until it is more convenient to take it to the garage? Decisions, what is safe? When you go to the Moon, what warning sensors will you need? Do you have enough water? Do you have enough Oxygen for breathing? Do you have enough atmospheric pressure to do your breathing? Is the temperature within limits? How much radiation exposure? Then what do you do if any are outside of norms? Do you adjust the norms? Decisions, what is safe, what can you get by with? Thanks for looking up with me. Larry Kellogg Web Site: http://lkellogg.vttoth.com/LarryRussellKellogg/ BlogSpot: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/ RSS link: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/atom.xml Newsletter: https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update ============================================================== NASA Targets Space Shuttle Atlantis Launch on Jan. 2 *12.09.07* - Space shuttle Atlantis' STS-122 mission to the ISS now is targeted to launch no earlier than Jan. 2 from NASA's Kennedy Space Center. http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2007/dec/HQ_07273_January_launch.html Dec. 9, 2007 Katherine Trinidad Headquarters, Washington 202-358-3749 katherine.trinidad at nasa.gov Candrea Thomas Kennedy Space Center, Fla. 321-867-2468 candrea.k.thomas at nasa.gov RELEASE: 07-273 NASA TARGETS SPACE SHUTTLE ATLANTIS LAUNCH ON JAN. 2 CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - Space shuttle Atlantis' STS-122 mission to the International Space Station now is targeted to launch no earlier than Jan. 2 from NASA's Kennedy Space Center. The liftoff date depends on the resolution of a problem in a fuel sensor system. Early Sunday, one of the four engine cutoff, or ECO, sensors inside the liquid hydrogen section of Atlantis' external fuel tank gave a false reading while the tank was being filled. NASA's current Launch Commit Criteria require that all four sensors function properly. The sensor system is one of several that protect the shuttle's main engines by triggering their shut down if fuel runs unexpectedly low. Atlantis' scheduled launch on Thursday, Dec. 6, was delayed after two liquid hydrogen ECO sensors gave false readings. The main objective of Atlantis' 11-day mission is to install and activate the European Space Agency's Columbus laboratory, which will provide scientists around the world the ability to conduct a variety of life, physical and materials science experiments. For the latest information about the STS-122 mission and the ECO sensor system, visit: http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle -end- Snip ============================================================== http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html snip *Media Resources* ? STS-122 Press Kit (15 Mb PDF) ? STS-122 Fact Sheet (7.6 Mb PDF) ? STS-122 TV Schedule ? ECO Sensor's Morning Press Briefing (Real Player Video) *Engine Cutoff (ECO) sensors graphics:* ? LH_2 ECO Sensor Locations ? Overall Schematic of ECO and Liquid Level (Point) Sensors ? Orbiter Avionics Bays ? Orbiter Aft Avionics Bays ? Functional Block Diagram of Point Sensor Box ? Exploded View of Point Sensor Box Snip ============================================================== WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK ============================================================== This is the lunar-update at news.altair.com https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update This list is a moderated list. The moderator is Larry Kellogg (larry.kellogg AT gmail.com) Please send suggestions for postings directly to Larry. ============================================================== From larry.kellogg at gmail.com Sat Dec 15 12:26:29 2007 From: larry.kellogg at gmail.com (Larry Kellogg) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:26:29 -0800 Subject: [lunar-update] Maelstrom II Update: Clarke Turns 90, Dec 16 Message-ID: <47640E45.2030404@gmail.com> Maelstrom II Update: Clarke Turns 90, Dec 16 Jeroen Lapre' sent some of us an e-mail reminding us that Arthur C. Clarke completes 90 Orbits around our Sun. (See copy below. - LRK -) You can view the Arthur's reflections on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qLdeEjdbWE Looking forward to Jeroen's short movie based on Arthur C. Clarke's short story 'MAELSTROM II'. http://www.distant-galaxy.com/maelstrom2/MaelstromII.html Maybe you would like to learn more about Arthur C. Clarke. http://www.clarkefoundation.org/ http://www.clarkefoundation.org/acc/biography.php http://www.clarkefoundation.org/acc/bibliography.php http://www.clarkefoundation.org/acc/vita.php Who of you will thrill us with your writings about the adventures of moving to space? - LRK - Thanks for looking up with me. Larry Kellogg Web Site: http://lkellogg.vttoth.com/LarryRussellKellogg/ BlogSpot: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/ RSS link: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/atom.xml Newsletter: https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update ============================================================== Copy of e-mail from Jeroen Lapre' - LRK - ----------------------------------------------------------- Dear Maelstrom II Cast, Crew, Consultants, and Friends, it is with some emotion I share this Maelstrom II update. Sir Arthur C. Clarke will be turning 90, 16th December, 2007, Sri Lanka time. Which will be tomorrow, 15th December, San Francisco time. I have updated the Maelstrom II website, with a news link at the top, and the Clarke Side Bar Link with same. It features a 9 minute YouTube video retrospective, of Sir Arthur's 90 orbits around our Sun. You may need to refresh your browsers to see the updates: http://www.distant-galaxy.com/maelstrom2/MaelstromII.html If you do not see the update on the Maelstrom II page, you can view the video directly here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qLdeEjdbWE Best wishes, Jeroen Lapre' technical director www.ilm.com producer/director www.distant-galaxy.com Snip ============================================================== http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00001133/ The Planetary Society Weblog By Emily Lakdawalla Video greeting from Sir Arthur C. Clarke Snip ============================================================== WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK ============================================================== This is the lunar-update at news.altair.com https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update This list is a moderated list. The moderator is Larry Kellogg (larry.kellogg AT gmail.com) Please send suggestions for postings directly to Larry. ============================================================== From larry.kellogg at gmail.com Thu Dec 20 13:02:08 2007 From: larry.kellogg at gmail.com (Larry Kellogg) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:02:08 -0800 Subject: [lunar-update] Apollo 17 returned to Earth yesterday, 19 December 1972 UT 19:24:59 (02:24:59 p.m. EST) - forget those 35 years of ho, hum. Message-ID: <476AAE20.5030704@gmail.com> Apollo 17 returned to Earth yesterday, 19 December 1972 UT 19:24:59 (02:24:59 p.m. EST), forget those 35 years of ho, hum. ----------------------------------------------- http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo17info.html Apollo 17 Launched: 7 December 1972 UT 05:33:00 (12:33:00 a.m. EST) Landed on Moon: 11 December 1972 UT 19:54:57 (02:54:57 p.m. EST) Landing Site: Taurus-Littrow (20.19 N, 30.77 E) Returned to Earth: 19 December 1972 UT 19:24:59 (02:24:59 p.m. EST) Eugene A. Cernan, commander Ronald E. Evans, command module pilot Harrison H. Schmitt, lunar module pilot ----------------------------------------------- You can read the whole story at the Apollo 17 Lunar Surface Journal. ----------------------------------------------- http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/alsj/a17/a17.html Corrected Transcript and Commentary Copyright ? 1995 by Eric M. Jones. All rights reserved. Last revised 18 September 2006. Return to Earth http://www.hq.nasa.gov/pao/History/alsj/a17/a17.homeward.html Corrected Transcript and Commentary Copyright ? 1995 by Eric M. Jones. All rights reserved. Last revised 21 August 2007. ----------------------------------------------- And a reminder that a lot of NASA History is available on-line in the many books that have been scanned for your enjoyment. - LRK - ----------------------------------------------- http://history.nasa.gov/apollo.html The Apollo Program Snip On-line Books Concerning Project Apollo: * /Apollo Expeditions to the Moon / (NASA SP-350, 1975) * /Apollo Over the Moon: A View From Orbit / (NASA SP-362, 1978). * /The Apollo Spacecraft: A Chronology / (NASA SP-4009, 4 volumes, 1969-1978). * /Managing NASA in the Apollo Era / (NASA SP-4102, 1982) * /NASA Engineers and the Age of Apollo . /(NASA SP-4104,1992). * /Moonport: A History of Apollo Launch Facilities and Operations / (NASA SP-4204, 1978). * /Chariots for Apollo: A History of Manned Lunar Spacecraft / (NASA SP-4205, 1979). * /Where No Man Has Gone Before: A History of Apollo Lunar Exploration Missions / (NASA SP-4214, 1989). * /Unmanned Space Project Management: Surveyor and Lunar Orbiter / (NASA SP-4901, 1972). * /Destination Moon: A History of the Lunar Orbiter Program / (NASA TM-3487, 1977). * /An Annotated Bibliography of the Apollo Program / (Monographs in Aerospace History, No. 2, 1994). * /Apollo: A Retrospective Analysis / (Monographs in Aerospace History, No. 3, 1994). * /Enchanted Rendezvous: John C. Houbolt and the Genesis of the Lunar-Orbit Rendezvous Concept / (Monographs in Aerospace History, No. 4, 1995). * /Apollo by the Numbers: A Statistical Reference /(NASA SP-4029, 2001). * /Biomedical Results of Apollo / (NASA SP-368, 1975). * /What Made Apollo A Success? / (NASA SP-287, 1971). * /"Before This Decade is Out..." Personal Reflections on the Apollo Program / (NASA SP-4223, 1999). * /Project Apollo: The Tough Decisions / (Monographs in Aerospace History, No. 37, 2005). Snip ----------------------------------------------- Pleasant holidays and a happy New Year. Will turn 70 New Years eve. My how time flies when you are having fun. :-) - LRK - Thanks for looking up with me. Larry Kellogg Web Site: http://lkellogg.vttoth.com/LarryRussellKellogg/ BlogSpot: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/ RSS link: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/atom.xml Newsletter: https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update ============================================================== Apollo 17 lunar module "Challenger" liftoff from Taurus-Littrow landing site Abstract: The Apollo 17 lunar module (LM) "Challenger" ascent stage makes its liftoff from the lunar surface, as seen in this reproduction taken from a color television transmission made by the color RCA TV camera mounted on the lunar ... NASA Center: Johnson Space Center Publication Year: 1972 Added to NTRS: 2006-08-02 Accession Number: S72-55423 http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/lores/S72-55423.jpg Snip ============================================================== http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html Apollo Image Gallery Click on a subject below for an index of photographs Apollo 17 Images Index (787 entries found in Apollo 17 gallery) left-click on an Image ID to view a thumbnail image The World-Wide Web's most extensive collection of high-quality Apollo images, featuring images scanned for Eric Jones' Apollo Lunar Surface Journal. Many photographs on this website are courtesy of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, specifically the NASA History Office, Kennedy Space Center and Johnson Space Center, with special thanks to Steve Garber, Margaret Persinger and Mike Gentry for their invaluable assistance. All scans by Kipp Teague except where noted. Appreciation is also extended to J.L. Pickering and Ed Hengeveld for their extensive contributions to the Gallery. Snip http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_archive.html For Multimedia, select "Apollo Multimedia" from the Table of Contents navigation column on the left. - LRK - You can watch many clips including the liftoff from the Moon for the return to lunar orbit. - LRK - ============================================================== http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/SP-350/cover.html Apollo Expeditions to the Moon Edited By EDGAR M. CORTRIGHT Table of Contents snip 14 The Great Voyages of Exploration Scientific expeditions return a rich harvest HARRISON H. SCHMITT * Introduction * A New View Of The Moon * Inconceivable Violence * The Missions Of Understanding * A Major Thermal Event? * Beads Of Orange Glass * Appendix I: A New Way Of Exploration * Appendix II: Touring The Moon snip Scientific and Technical Information Office National Aeronautics and Space Administration Washington, DC SP-350, Published 1975 Snip ============================================================== WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK ============================================================== This is the lunar-update at news.altair.com https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update This list is a moderated list. The moderator is Larry Kellogg (larry.kellogg AT gmail.com) Please send suggestions for postings directly to Larry. ============================================================== From larry.kellogg at gmail.com Sat Dec 22 18:56:41 2007 From: larry.kellogg at gmail.com (Larry Kellogg) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:56:41 -0800 Subject: [lunar-update] Asteroid Threatens to Hit Mars Message-ID: <476DA439.50902@gmail.com> Asteroid Threatens to Hit Mars http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/21dec_2007wd5.htm?list965414 A rock is headed Mars way having already passed us. JPL Animation. http://www.nasa.gov/mov/206962main_Mars_Asteroid_Animation.mov Would be interesting if one of the Rovers could track it. If it hits maybe one of the current satellites will be able to image the result of the hit. That should make the six o'clock news and give folks something to think about. For today, Nah, Nah, missed me. Interesting game of dodge ball we are playing. What team are you betting on? - LRK - Thanks for looking up with me. Larry Kellogg Web Site: http://lkellogg.vttoth.com/LarryRussellKellogg/ BlogSpot: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/ RSS link: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/atom.xml Newsletter: https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update ============================================================== Asteroid Threatens to Hit Mars http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2007/21dec_2007wd5.htm?list965414 *Dec. 21, 2007:* Astronomers funded by NASA are monitoring the trajectory of an asteroid named 2007 WD5 that is expected to cross the orbital path of Mars early next year. Calculations by NASA's Near-Earth Object Office at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory indicate that the 164-ft wide asteroid may pass within 30,000 miles of Mars at about 6 a.m. EST on Jan. 30, 2008. "Right now asteroid 2007 WD5 is about half-way between the Earth and Mars and closing the distance [to Mars] at a speed of about 27,900 miles per hour," said Don Yeomans, manager of the Near Earth Object Office at JPL. There is a 1-in-75 chance of 2007 WD5 hitting Mars; researchers can't be more confident than that because of uncertainties in the asteroid's orbit. If this unlikely event were to occur, however, the strike would happen somewhere within a broad swath across the planet north of where the Opportunity rover is. Snip ============================================================== http://planetary.org/news/2007/1221_Asteroid_Misses_Earth_Threatens_Mars.html Asteroid Misses Earth, Threatens Mars. by Amir Alexander December 21, 2007 Designated 2007 WD5, the asteroid was discovered on November 20 by NASA-funded observers searching for possible Earth-impactors. At that time of its detection the asteroid had already made its closest pass of the Earth, closing to within 7.5 million kilometers (4.7 million miles) on November 1, and was moving towards Mars. The original detection was made using the 1.5 meter telescope on Mount Lemmon, near Tucson, Arizona, and was followed up with observations at Kitt Peak, Arizona, and the Magdalena Ridge Observatory in New Mexico. Taken together, the observations indicated that although Earth was safe from 2007 WD5, our smaller neighbor Mars may not be. Snip ============================================================== Ominous Asteroid Threatens Mars http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2007/12/21/asteroid-mars-nasa.html Alicia Chang, Associated Press *Dec. 21, 2007 -- Mars could be in for an asteroid hit. A newly discovered hunk of space rock has a one in 75 chance of slamming into the Red Planet on Jan. 30, scientists said Thursday. "These odds are extremely unusual. We frequently work with really long odds when we track ... threatening asteroids," said Steve Chesley, an astronomer with the Near Earth Object Program at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. The asteroid, known as 2007 WD5, was discovered in late November and is similar in size to an object that hit remote central Siberia in 1908, unleashing energy equivalent to a 15-megaton nuclear bomb and wiping out 60 million trees. * Snip ============================================================== http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-152 Astronomers Monitor Asteroid to Pass Near Mars December 21, 2007 WASHINGTON - Astronomers funded by NASA are monitoring the trajectory of an asteroid estimated to be 50 meters (164 feet) wide that is expected to cross Mars' orbital path early next year. Observations provided by the astronomers and analyzed by NASA's Near-Earth Object Office at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., indicate the object may pass within 30,000 miles of Mars at about 6 a.m. EST (3 a.m. PST) on Jan. 30, 2008. "Right now asteroid 2007 WD5 is about half-way between Earth and Mars and closing the distance at a speed of about 27,900 miles per hour," said Don Yeomans, manager of the Near Earth Object Office at JPL. "Over the next five weeks, we hope to gather more information from observatories so we can further refine the asteroid's trajectory." NASA detects and tracks asteroids and comets passing close to Earth. The Near Earth Object Observation Program, commonly called "Spaceguard," plots the orbits of these objects to determine if any could be potentially hazardous to our planet. Snip [See image links at web site. - LRK -] ============================================================== WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK ============================================================== This is the lunar-update at news.altair.com https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update This list is a moderated list. The moderator is Larry Kellogg (larry.kellogg AT gmail.com) Please send suggestions for postings directly to Larry. ============================================================== From larry.kellogg at gmail.com Wed Dec 26 21:46:50 2007 From: larry.kellogg at gmail.com (Larry Kellogg) Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 18:46:50 -0800 Subject: [lunar-update] Planetary Society - The year 2007 - A rich and rewarding one Message-ID: <4773121A.5090800@gmail.com> Planetary Society - The year 2007 - A rich and rewarding one. Received an e-mail from Louis Friedman , that he sent to the Planetary Society members. You probably got it didn't you? hmmmm, maybe not a Planetary Society member, well I copied it below. :-) - LRK - We have been waiting for spacecraft to go back to the Moon, and now we have some there. We have a lot of activity at Mars on the ground and in orbit. Watch and see if they get visited by an asteroid. People are still wondering about the Pioneer Anomaly. The Voyagers are still on their way through space. Take a look at the list of SPACE MISSIONS at the Planetary link. http://www.planetary.org/explore/topics/groups/ More news at http://www.planetary.org/news/ Next Year Should Be Even Better, Yes. [Make sure your representatives will be supporting your interest in space.] Thanks for looking up with me. Larry Kellogg Web Site: http://lkellogg.vttoth.com/LarryRussellKellogg/ BlogSpot: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/ RSS link: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/atom.xml Newsletter: https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update ============================================================== As a member of the Planetary Society, received the e-mail below from Louis Friedman. - LRK - http://planetary.org/about/founders/louis_friedman.html --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Planetary Society Member, *The year 2007 has been a rich and rewarding one* for us space explorers. It is breathtaking to consider the pace of solar system exploration -- 20 spacecraft are now beyond Earth orbit sending back data from all over the solar system. *You, as a member of The Planetary Society,* are part of humanity's move off Earth and out into the solar system. Right now, the names of Planetary Society members are flying around the rings of Saturn on /Cassini/, on the Red Planet with /Spirit/ and /Opportunity/, traveling to the asteroid belt with /Dawn/, cruising around the Moon on /Kaguya/, heading toward the north pole of Mars on /Phoenix/, and journeying to Pluto on /New Horizons/. *The past year we took an important new step:* We added the Earth to our mission. Our mission statement now reads: /"To inspire the people of Earth to explore other worlds, understand our own, and seek life elsewhere."/ *Consider this: *Earth sits between two examples of planets gone bad -- at least, as far as life is concerned. Venus was overtaken by a runaway greenhouse effect, which boiled away its oceans and raised the surface temperature to the point it would melt lead. Mars lost its once thick and protective atmosphere, and now it's a world where any liquid water that happened to appear on its surface would immediately transform to a gas. *Planetary science has taught us these lessons,* but we have much more to learn. We explore other worlds to understand this one. Only by seeing Earth as one planet among many can we truly understand our own pale blue dot of a world. *Philosophically and scientifically,* we always treated Earth as a planet, but we didn't trumpet that fact, out of concern that some people might think The Planetary Society was weakening our stance that exploring other worlds is a human imperative. But after more than a quarter-century of being the world's largest and most effective space advocacy group, surely no one can now seriously believe we're backing down. *We've added to our mission statement,* while taking nothing away. We'll be doing all this while continuing to campaign to keep planetary exploration robust. While we advance the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. While we support research into the threat posed by near-Earth comets and asteroids. And while we lead the International Lunar Decade to maximize the scientific return from the many missions now targeting Earth's Moon. *This means that, in the coming year, *we're going to need your help and support even more. You know how active The Planetary Society is. *You are part of everything we do.* I look forward to exploring the future in space -- and on Earth -- with you. With best wishes for the coming year, Louis Friedman Louis Friedman Executive Director P.S. We land on Mars this coming May 25 -- and I mean "we" literally. The Planetary Society's "/Visions of Mars/" is riding on the /Phoenix/ spacecraft, carrying the first library to another planet. It's just one more thing we've accomplished together. Thank you. Snip ============================================================== http://www.planetary.org/news/2007/1226_The_Year_in_Pictures_2007.html The Year in Pictures: 2007 *By Emily Lakdawalla * December 26, 2007 The year 2007 certainly has been one of the most active in planetary exploration. Of the 20 robotic spacecraft in operation, 11 returned images to Earth from four planets plus numerous moons, including our own recently neglected natural satellite. Snip [Go to the web site to see images and links to more. - LRK -] ============================================================== http://www.planetary.org/explore/topics/groups/ Space Topics All Space Topics by Group EXPLORE Snip [I won't include all the links this time, you will just have to go to the web site. :-) - LRK -] ============================================================== WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK ============================================================== This is the lunar-update at news.altair.com https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update This list is a moderated list. The moderator is Larry Kellogg (larry.kellogg AT gmail.com) Please send suggestions for postings directly to Larry. ============================================================== From larry.kellogg at gmail.com Thu Dec 27 13:05:48 2007 From: larry.kellogg at gmail.com (Larry Kellogg) Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:05:48 -0800 Subject: [lunar-update] Apollo 8 and their Christmas Message Message-ID: <4773E97C.3010205@gmail.com> Apollo 8 and their Christmas Message Raymond Potter in Sydney Australia sent me an e-mail which reminded me of the InsideKSC talk about Apollo 8 and the Christmas Message that was sent to Earth from their orbit around the Moon. Christmas is already gone but you can listen to the Apollo 8 message. http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo8_xmas.html http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/academy/history/apollo-8/apollo-8-xmas.html http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~evans/aviation/apollo8/ The folks at Honeysuckle Creek in Australia recorded a lot of the Apollo 8 mission when their Deep Space Network antennas had a view period for the mission going around the Moon. http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/index1.html Apollo 8 - The Mission To The Moon Is Won http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/msfn_missions/Apollo_8_mission/index.html Apollo 8 Audio recorded at Honeysuckle. http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/msfn_missions/Apollo_8_mission/apollo8_audio.html Many thanks to Hamish Lindsay and those folks that were a part of this mission there Down Under. http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/msfn_missions/Apollo_8_mission/hl_apollo8.html http://www.honeysucklecreek.net/people/lindsay.html Thanks for looking up with me. Larry Kellogg Web Site: http://lkellogg.vttoth.com/LarryRussellKellogg/ BlogSpot: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/ RSS link: http://kelloggserialreports.blogspot.com/atom.xml Newsletter: https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update ============================================================== The New Year is almost here and I have missed checking the calendar too many times. You must wake me up when you see something interesting. - LRK - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/calendar/ JPL Space Calendar *Welcome to the Space Calendar!* The Space Calendar covers space-related activities and anniversaries for the coming year. Included are over 1,700 links to related home pages. This Calendar is compiled and maintained by Ron Baalke. Please send any updates or corrections to ron at jpl.nasa.gov . Snip # Dec 26 - Asteroid 1737 Severny Occults HIP 111710 (5.0 Magnitude Star) # Dec 26 - Asteroid 2005 HB4 Near-Mars Flyby (0.031 AU) # Dec 27 - Asteroid 1672 Gezelle Occults HIP 106199 (6.6 Magnitude Star) # Dec 27 - Asteroid 15000 CCD Closest Approach To Earth (1.955 AU) # Dec 28 - Cassini, Orbital Trim Maneuver #141 (OTM-141) # Dec 28 - Asteroid 2007 VY7 Near-Earth Flyby (0.068 AU) # Dec 28 - Asteroid 2003 YT70 Near-Earth Flyby (0.075 AU) # Dec 28 - Asteroid 2007 DD Near-Earth Flyby (0.095 AU) # Dec 28 - Asteroid 2007 WE55 Near-Earth Flyby (0.097 AU) # Dec 28 - Asteroid 6030 Zolensky Closest Approach To Earth (2.135 AU) # Dec 28 - Asteroid 6487 Tonyspear Closest Approach To Earth (2.187 AU) # Dec 28 - Arthur Eddington's 125th Birthday (1882) Snip ============================================================== http://grin.hq.nasa.gov/ABSTRACTS/GPN-2001-000009.html NASA Center: Headquarters Image # : 68-HC-870 Date : 12/29/1968 Title Earthrise - Apollo 8 Full Description This view of the rising Earth greeted the Apollo 8 astronauts as they came from behind the Moon after the lunar orbit insertion burn. The photo is displayed here in its original orientation, though it is more commonly viewed with the lunar surface at the bottom of the photo. Earth is about five degrees left of the horizon in the photo. The unnamed surface features on the left are near the eastern limb of the Moon as viewed from Earth. The lunar horizon is approximately 780 kilometers from the spacecraft. Height of the photographed area at the lunar horizon is about 175 kilometers. Image Information ( Copyright Notification ) Resolution Format Width (Pixels) Height (Pixels) Size(KBytes) Thumbnail .jpg 90 72 4 Small .jpg 640 512 59 Medium .jpg 1500 1200 230 Large .jpg 1 2400 972 Snip ============================================================== http://www.amazon.com/Tracking-Apollo-Moon-Hamish-Lindsay/dp/1852332123 Tracking Apollo to the Moon (Hardcover) by Hamish Lindsay (Author) "We know the last step of our journey along the track to the Moon's surface down to a second, but who can isolate the first... Snip *Review* "Hamish Lindsay has done a marvellous job of telling the story of manned space flight He has given his readers a sort of encyclopedia of the beginning of man's quest for flight into space. This is followed with a splendid description of the real time operations of all of the major missions. As one who lived through the Camelot period of space in the 60s and knows the trauma we all endured, I am greatly impressed with the detail and authenticity of the stories that Hamish so vividly tells. For example, as I read Hamish's account of the Apollo 11 and 13 missions, I could again imagine myself back in mission control reliving some of the finest moments of my life...Those of you who are fortunate to read Hamish Lindsay's account will be much richer for it." - FROM THE FOREWORD BY CHRISTOPHER C. KRAFT, JR., NASA's First Flight Director and Retired Director of the NASA Johnson Space Center Snip ============================================================== WHAT THE MIND CAN CONCEIVE, AND BELIEVE, IT WILL ACHIEVE - LRK ============================================================== This is the lunar-update at news.altair.com https://news.altair.com/mailman/listinfo/lunar-update This list is a moderated list. The moderator is Larry Kellogg (larry.kellogg AT gmail.com) Please send suggestions for postings directly to Larry. ==============================================================