[Apple3-L] Can an Apple III Boot off an Apple Profile HD?

[Bart]

Add Focus,  Vulcan (Black and Gold), and InnerDrive to the failure  
list.  I have tried to boot from those as well.
On Oct 1, 2007, at 6:41 AM, Jeff Marraccini wrote:

> Steve,
>
> None of the mass storage devices I have worked with (CFFA compact
> flash adapter - my current mass storage choice for my ///'s <grin>,
> Corvus hard drives, and First Class Peripherals Sider hard drive)
> would boot the ///.  A boot floppy has to be used to bring up BOS or
> SOS.  Once booted, the applications run off the flash memory or hard
> drives, but booting still takes a minute or two off the floppy.
>
> The bootstrap code on the /// is very small but from what I have been
> told it is highly dependent on the first floppy drive in the ///, so
> it would need to be redirected elsewhere or rewritten.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
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> On Sep 30, 2007, at 1:29 PM, Steve wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Thank You for the reply. This is what I had come to figure was the
>> case due to the lack of it being referenced anywhere. That would be a
>> nice addition to note in the Apple III FAQ.
>>
>> I am not sure if you know the answer to this, but it does appear that
>> the Apple II Profile controller card has a boot ROM and will boot
>> directly off the Profile. I am guessing that the Apple II interface
>> must have been made available after the Apple III Profile controller.
>>
>> Also, the Lisa boots directly from a Profile, correct?
>>
>> So, am I correct to conclude that the Profile was designed and made
>> originally available for the Apple III and then was made available to
>> Apple II customers, and finally Lisa customers?
>>
>> Here is another interesting question. Can other newer controllers
>> allow an Apple III to boot directly from an HD (ie http:// 
>> dreher.net/?
>> s=projects/CFforAppleII&c=projects/CFforAppleII/main.php) ?
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Sep 30, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Dave Ottalini wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The short answer is - NO. The longer answer is that with BOS3 (and
>>> a couple of earlier programs), you would start with your .d1 drive
>>> but it immediately goes to the Profile and loads everything from
>>> there.
>>>
>>> The longer answer is that On 3 founder Bob Consorti's folks found a
>>> way to do this, but it was not something they ever cared to share
>>> because they didn't want to spend the time making it work on a
>>> commercial basis... our loss.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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